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tonymidd
19th June 2006, 11:49 AM
MONITOR PROFILING


The importance of having your monitor correctly set up cannot be over emphasised, it?s your window to the world.

A profiled monitor is the most important step in getting good results either for printing or for use on the web and seeing others work in the correct manner. Given a correctly profiled monitor the generic printer profiles will show a distinct improvement and with custom print profiles an even better result.

Ideally you should use a calibration tool such as the ColorVision?s Spyder 2 Pro which has become an industry standard and follow the instructions to the letter. However at about £200 this is quite an investment for the average hobbyist, there are less expensive calibration devices such as the new Pantone range starting at about £60 that will give reasonable results.

You can do a visual calibration on a PC using Adobe Gamma, this comes packaged with Photoshop, or on a Mac the Apple Display Calibrator Assistant. As I suspect the majority of forum member s are using PC?s I?ll concentrate on Adobe Gamma.

1
Open the Control Panel and select ?Adobe Gamma?, if the icon for this is not showing open Program files/Adobe/Calibration.
2
Select the Assistant radio button
3
If you have a profile supplied by your monitor manufacturer, these are found in the ICM Color Profiles folder, select the appropriate one and click ?Load?. If there is not a dedicated profile select the nearest generic one such as ?sRGB Color Space Profile?.
4
Check the ?Step by Step (Wizard)? button > next
5
Give the profile you are going to generate a name > next
6
You will see a box with a white outer and a dark rectangle inside it with another rectangle inside that.
Set the monitor contrast to it?s highest setting.
Now adjust the brightness so that the inner box is as dark as possible without going completely black and keeping the outer white frame bright. > next
7
In the phosphors box keep the setting generated by your setting in step 3 > next
8
Deselect the ?View single Gamma only? box. Three boxes with a central box will appear, one for each colour channel.
Use the sliders under each channel box to make the center box fade into the outer box, squinting slightly can help determine when this happens.
Now select ?Windows Default Gamma? 2.2 in the gamma box. > next
9
Now set the white point, a figure of 6500K > next
10
In this screen leave the setting at ?Hardware White Point? > next
11
This screen shows before and after radio buttons. Check ?Finish?

Finally remember monitors change quite quickly so get into the habit of adjusting it regularly. A CRT should be done weekly, and LCD monthly.

lostmysnorkel
20th June 2006, 01:57 PM
Tony,

This is very useful stuff, but I'm afraid it doesn't help me much.

I work on a laptop and don't have the contrast settings etc that I appear to need.

Is there any way I can profile the monitor properly?

Cheers

lostmysnorkel
20th June 2006, 02:11 PM
Don't worry found it!

rogerk
1st October 2006, 11:55 PM
I too work on a laptop and have the same problem. Can you please advise me how you did it.:ops:

tonymidd
2nd October 2006, 08:41 AM
I too work on a laptop and have the same problem. Can you please advise me how you did it.:ops:

The details are normally in the manual which is usually on a disk. Different manfacturers use different methods of adjustment.

Stemmy
2nd October 2006, 09:09 AM
The Spyder I have just bought (and am lending to forum members) does laptops without Brightness and Contrast etc. - It did mine in 10 mins.

BarryM
2nd October 2006, 10:03 AM
I also think i need to add to this.

Just last week i found out something, as is i couldnt use adobe gamma, it seemed to make no noticable difference to anything.

Accidently i clicked on my graphic card settings (ati) and noticed colour calibration, so mucked around a bit with it, turns out my settings for gamma, colours brightness etc can all be adjusted from there rather than the monitor, although this is set to a forumla too.

screwdriver
2nd October 2006, 10:55 PM
Hi

This is my first post to this group - so here goes.

At long last I have took the plunge and bought - yes bought - the Colourvision Spyder2 suite and I wish I had done years ago!

For the first time I know that the colours on the screen are a pretty accurate representation of the RGB values in the file, so when I make adjustments in Photoshop what I see on the screen is what is happening in the file, no more dog chasing it's tail. - been there, done that!

Opening some of my old photos really brought it home to me how much I struggled in the past.

As I said I bought the suite which includes a printer profiling program, the difference this has made is quite astounding too, now dark colours have detail as do the highlights. Certainly to be recommended!!

How long have I waited to reach this startling conclusion? Well when I first started using Photoshop it was a free download from the Lucas Industries (Star Wars) site! Some people eh!

Thanks for a great photo group, Chris.

england1965
30th November 2006, 11:47 AM
Hello,

Is there a "dummies guide to monitor profiling" out there somewhere.

I have just borrowed the Forum Spyder and got myself into a right pickle.

It had Adobe Gamma installed as part of CS2 (which I had to disable) I ran the Spyder - but when it got to the "show before and after" screen - I couldn't see a difference. I find it hard to believe that it was right first time.

I now see the Spyder splash screen when I start XP but there is a warning that the profile is an incorrect length and that I should pick another using the profileselector (whereever the flip that is).

I wonder if my running a dual-screen system is causing problems - I guess I would have needed to Spyder each screen (although they are identical models) - would each need its own profile?


How do monitor profiles relate to Adobe colour profiles?

Arrggghhhhhhh

Cheers

Mark

BarryM
30th November 2006, 11:53 AM
err id do each screen individually mate, i had issues too as i use two screens, but both are different, so only calibrated my main working one.

Perhaps your monitor was damn close mate. Try it again on ur main working one, im sure it only took 5 mins to run through it all, i did mine around 6 times as i was attempting dual screen but got in a pickle.

Stemmy
30th November 2006, 01:19 PM
Yes - I profiled my main monitor (the one I do all my Photoshop on) and then manually changed my second screen to match.

Seemed pretty straight forward when I did it.

tonymidd
30th November 2006, 02:01 PM
Mark, first point; the monitor profile is not a colour profile.
To select the monitor profile there should be a triangular icon on your desktop 'profile chooser' in there you should find a profile called 'plug & play monitor' highlight that. You still need to select your working colour space in PS using the preference tab.
I'd say you really need to do each monitor.

Chris Hawkins
30th November 2006, 03:47 PM
Mark, first point; the monitor profile is not a colour profile.
.

Yes and make sure you don't select the monitor profile as your colour profile, since this is possible. I'd have no idea about how to approach having profiles for 2 monitors - Stemmy's approach seems pragmatic. When I had a 2 monitor set up I only used one for the photos - the other (secondary) was used for the toolbars. I now use a 20" widescreen which is the dogs bits! (I do have to take all my photos in landscape through:cray: )

Stemmy
30th November 2006, 04:19 PM
Yes Ive got a 20" widescreen to, and have to say its amazing.

tonymidd
30th November 2006, 05:19 PM
I now use a 20" widescreen which is the dogs bits! (I do have to take all my photos in landscape through:cray: )

I've a wide screen laptop and had to tell it not to fill the screen or alter the ratio of the image.

george.monaghan
30th November 2006, 10:13 PM
Hi,

A good poit raised there though - do you convert the image profile to the calibrated monitor?

I do, ortherwise there is no point in calibrating. Am I wrong in this approach?

Tony, over to you please.

george.monaghan
30th November 2006, 10:14 PM
Hello,

Is there a "dummies guide to monitor profiling" out there somewhere.

Arrggghhhhhhh

Cheers

Mark


Aye man, ask ME!!!!