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tonymidd
8th February 2007, 11:21 AM
someones shot can we not include the steps taken? I feel this is only polite, if we don't include the method no-one will learn anything which rather defeats the main object of the forum.

BarryM
8th February 2007, 11:34 AM
I definelty second that mate. Nothing worse than a " i touched the pic up a bit for you" suddenly its a masterpeice but no idea how the person got it that way.

tonymidd
8th February 2007, 02:51 PM
I definelty second that mate. Nothing worse than a " i touched the pic up a bit for you" suddenly its a masterpeice but no idea how the person got it that way.

Even worse is to say 'I tweeked the what ever' without saying how. I know we are all quilty of this but I'm trying to at least say which tools I've used. This came home to me when commenting on some of Karey's work.

Bindii
8th February 2007, 03:20 PM
I am guilty of sometimes not listing the steps I have used to edit a photo...*hangs head in shame*....

my only excuse is that I am a ditzy bird sometimes and I have forgotten exactly what I did to get it that way...

sorry I will try harder in future...;)

kya
8th February 2007, 03:38 PM
I would find this extremely helpful..I'm a beginner with ps and would love to know how some of these edits are done..or maybe some tutorials for us beginners from you experts? :)

tonymidd
8th February 2007, 04:14 PM
I would find this extremely helpful..I'm a beginner with ps and would love to know how some of these edits are done..or maybe some tutorials for us beginners from you experts? :)

er;:grin: that's what the mentoring prog is for......:grin::grin:

tonymidd
8th February 2007, 04:15 PM
I am guilty of sometimes not listing the steps I have used to edit a photo...*hangs head in shame*....

my only excuse is that I am a ditzy bird sometimes and I have forgotten exactly what I did to get it that way...

sorry I will try harder in future...;)

If you are using PS you can always check the history :grin::grin:

David Worthington
8th February 2007, 04:53 PM
yer i see what you are sayin...but... i sometimes feel that the edits i do will lead the original tog to go to the same tools/options and have a go themselves... i do worry that i am telling someone something that they already know but didnt get around to applying it to a posted image.

i usually indicate which tools etc i used and i figure that they can always post back or PM me to ask a bit more in depth if necessary

blindabyss
8th February 2007, 06:52 PM
I agree, Tony. Would be very helpful indeed. Another thing I thought would be useful would be a 'Tip From A Pro' added to the newsletter, the likes of a short essay on lighting, or one of your DoF posts.

As for the mentoring program, I'm considering taken it up when I start college, so I don't become pigeonholed. :)

BarryM
8th February 2007, 09:59 PM
The Tip from a Pro could be a fantastic add on to the newsletter, definelty.

kya
8th February 2007, 10:58 PM
er;:grin: that's what the mentoring prog is for......:grin::grin:

I'm thinking I need too! :)

Bindii
9th February 2007, 01:12 AM
er;:grin: that's what the mentoring prog is for......:grin::grin:

Ummm I dont know about that Tony...the mentoring program I feel is for persoanlised one on one tutoring for members who want the extra help and advice...

the forum still has a place for tutorials and advice...I would hate to think that this assistance is restricted to only those who pay....:)

Oh...you were joking...;)c

Bindii
9th February 2007, 02:31 AM
The Tip from a Pro could be a fantastic add on to the newsletter, definelty.

I'd also like to see an agony aunt section in the newsletter too...

something along the lines of the examples below...

Dear Aunt Bindii,
My boyfriend and I have been going out for two years now and he always want to have sex.
He would have it 3 times a day if I let him.
What should I do?
Love
Frigid Bridget

Dear Frigid Bridget,
And your problem is?
Love
Aunt Bindii

:grin:

tonymidd
9th February 2007, 10:16 AM
Ummm I dont know about that Tony...the mentoring program I feel is for persoanlised one on one tutoring for members who want the extra help and advice...

the forum still has a place for tutorials and advice...I would hate to think that this assistance is restricted to only those who pay....:)

Oh...you were joking...;)c

No, I was serious, as you well know I'll help any one with a problem and in fact there are a lot of threads dealing with the basics and these include specfic tutorials but they are tucked away and split between at least two boards. I do feel these should be grouped together and made more obvious but even so if people only took the time to use the forum search before jumping in with a question they'd probably find the subject has already been covered in some depth.
Yes the mentoring is personalised and should be done to cover the areas the 'pupil' wants; at the speed they want. I know from my experience with Karey I started her off with a DoF/aperture excersise and she's now asking all sorts of questions so now instead of me leading her she's now finding her own way with me 'reading the map' to get her to her destination.

olivia
9th February 2007, 11:02 AM
As I'm learning too, I appreciate Tony's suggestion.. and the explanation he gave yesterday on the 'all the rest' thread was really useful .. I didnt know anything about that for instance and certainly would not have had the faintest clue what to do with it but I can see it now and how his suggestion can change a whole photos look..it was quite inspiring, actually..
I incidentally had disasterous photos 'improved' a while ago now, for which I was very grateful, but its trueit canbe a bit frustrating not knowing how to attempt the given result myself.. I find :doh: PS can be like a real jungle at times if one is not naturally tech minded.

olivia
9th February 2007, 11:08 AM
I'd also like to see an agony aunt section in the newsletter too...

something along the lines of the examples below...

Dear Aunt Bindii,
My boyfriend and I have been going out for two years now and he always want to have sex.
He would have it 3 times a day if I let him.
What should I do?
Love
Frigid Bridget

Dear Frigid Bridget,
And your problem is?
Love
Aunt Bindii

:grin:

..:cray: good to know you are there to help if we ever have any probems Bindii..

Bindii
9th February 2007, 11:30 AM
..:cray: good to know you are there to help if we ever have any probems Bindii..

Oh...I'm not really...just here as the resident crazy person...

checks straightjacket..

gee this thing could do with some ironing..:grin:

tonymidd
9th February 2007, 02:19 PM
As I'm learning too, I appreciate Tony's suggestion.. and the explanation he gave yesterday on the 'all the rest' thread was really useful .. I didnt know anything about that for instance and certainly would not have had the faintest clue what to do with it but I can see it now and how his suggestion can change a whole photos look..it was quite inspiring, actually..
I incidentally had disasterous photos 'improved' a while ago now, for which I was very grateful, but its trueit canbe a bit frustrating not knowing how to attempt the given result myself.. I find :doh: PS can be like a real jungle at times if one is not naturally tech minded.

With PS you have two main choices, get a good book such the ones by Martin Evening or Scott Kelby alternatively spend a lot of money on Adobe courses or similar. A lot of camera clubs also run PS courses but the only problem, as can happen on forums, the person giving the advice may pass on their bad ways, a bit like being taught to drive by a relative rather than a trained instructor. :grin:

olivia
10th February 2007, 10:14 AM
Thanks for your suggestions, Tony.