More Ram Needed ?

[paulstmungo]

Hi All,

Just started using the Canon 5d lots recently after using the 20d for some time.

The file sizes are larger on the 5d than the 20d, and when opening in CS or CS2 everythings slower.

Now i'm not sure why this should be cos ive often had 15 full res jpegs from the 20d on screen at the same time, and something like unsharp mask works on the frontmost image in an instant.

However even with 1 full res jpeg from the 5d on screen i have to sit and wait about 5 seconds for the unsharp mask to do its thing.

Even opening the file from the 5d takes ages.

Ive upped the ram availble to PS to 90% from 80 % in the settings but its made little diffirence.

Is there some additional image data in the 5d files which is causing the slow performance ?

My Computer is a pentium 3.2 ,1 gb of ram (can take up to 3gig) 800mhz fsb.

[StagePhotography.co.uk]

Yup I'd think about upping your RAM...

2 to 3 gbs should be better..

CS and PS are very memory hungry, and
I one of the reasons I use PSP to edit..

Buy 1 or 2 Gb of ram for the computer
and you should see a improvement..

Also check though Virtual Memory
and disk space...

You may find DEFRAGGing your harddrive
may also help..

[paulstmungo]

Cheers Mate.

One question..Whats the virtual memory ?

[StuG]

Cheers Mate.

One question..Whats the virtual memory ?

Your pc will allocate a certain amount of disc space to use as memory, that's known as virtual memory.

[David Worthington]

couple of things....are you using Yervant page gallery as a plug-in.. cos that has loadsa actions which can take a while to load....... and any tool palets not used too often.. eg channels, paths, swatches then click them out as well ( they can always be brought back)....and finally....... there is no mention of scratch discs in the above... the scratch disc should not be the same driva as the PS disc....... i think i am right in that......anyone else clarify this as i am not 100% certain

[BarryM]

yes Dave, if u can create scratch disks away from your main drive it helps a lot, i have mine pointing to my spare photo database drive (f), im sure then it frees up ur cdrive memory a little for the usual stuff. Im running with err 1 gig i think and it takes me a minute to open a raw etc. too much and it crashes. Deffo sounds like a ram problem.

[Reickert]

And to think, I used to publish a daily newspaper on one MEG of RAM. lol

[paulstmungo]

Thanks for all that.

In PS i don't have the scratch set on a diffirent drive, ive never worried about it before.

I have my main hard drive divided into 3. C, E, F

C is for programs only and the other 2 sectors are for general stuff.


All images and work related documents are stored on networked raid drives.

The only other drive i have is a USB drive which Ghosts the Main hard drive daily.

Is it ok to set the scratch disk to be one of the other sectors on the main hard drive ? or do i get another USB drive and dedicate this as the scratch disk ?

I'm going to step the ram up to the maximum 3gb anyway i think, this should do for another year or two or until i can justify buying a Hasselblad HD3 with ENORMOUS file sizes.

[Renee Marquis]

Yikes... I am getting a windows - no disk. Afraid I dont have enough ram or that my PS is in the wrong place and if so how do I move it? I need a computer guy to HELP cause I have no clue what I am doing or what needs to be done to fix this.

[Keitht]

Are you getting 'No disk' or 'No disk space'? The former is rather more worrying than the latter!
If it is a disk space issue then clearing internet cache will provide a temporary solution. You can't generally simply move programmes from one disk to another because there will be reference to their locations in the registry or ini files if the programme still uses them. You will have to remove the current installation and then reinstall to another drive.

[simonkit]

I recently upgraded my hard-drive to a 500gb SATA, made a noticeable difference over the old IDE one

It's also worthwhile having a good "registry cleaner" - loads of bad links in the registry can have a detrimental effect on your PC, as can Spyware

[David Worthington]

I recently upgraded my hard-drive to a 500gb SATA, made a noticeable difference over the old IDE one

It's also worthwhile having a good "registry cleaner" - loads of bad links in the registry can have a detrimental effect on your PC, as can Spyware


yes i would endorse that... "ad-aware" for free spyware cleansing and "PC-onpoint" for duff registry cleaning

[Ade]

It's also worthwhile having a good "registry cleaner" - loads of bad links in the registry can have a detrimental effect on your PC

Arrrgghhh, Noooo... These proggies cause more trouble than they fix, i would NEVER run one of those on my PC..

The best policy is to do a fresh clean install and only add/remove programs you have to.

[BarryM]

Ade id have to disagree there mate.

Ive had my OS up and running for years now, no formats, clean installs or nothing. I use easy cleaner once a week to clean my registry, it only removes the entries that have been added with proggys that have now been uninstalled etc. And it boosts the performance no end.

[David Worthington]

Arrrgghhh, Noooo... These proggies cause more trouble than they fix, i would NEVER run one of those on my PC..

The best policy is to do a fresh clean install and only add/remove programs you have to.


tell us more Ade... i run these regularly and there is a noticable increase of operating speed / response after they have done their work... esp if you forget to do it for a few days.......... are we talking aboutthe same products ?

[Ade]

Ade id have to disagree there mate.

Ive had my OS up and running for years now, no formats, clean installs or nothing. I use easy cleaner once a week to clean my registry, it only removes the entries that have been added with proggys that have now been uninstalled etc. And it boosts the performance no end.

Hmmm, well if it's working for you mate then by all means carry on BUT make sure you back up regulary.

tell us more Ade... i run these regularly and there is a noticable increase of operating speed / response after they have done their work... esp if you forget to do it for a few days.......... are we talking aboutthe same products ?

After working in IT for the last 10+ years one of the most common problems i've got is after people have run programs such as these. Basically the registry IS Windows. If a componant is removed by this software incorrectly all sort can happen from programs not running to the full 'bluescreen of death'.

Another proggy to avoid is Norton. Your PC will grind to a halt with this installed. As soon as i see a PC with this on i remove it and it clears most of the issues they had.

For AntiVirus i use AVG free. Totally free, non intrusive, daily updates and offers great protection.

[BarryM]

My proggy i use only alloows the deletion of defunked entries.

As to back up me is bad, i do not back nothing up, apart from photos, and my paperwork. Never have done and dont think i will, all software is on a dvd anyway, photos on spare drive and dvd, emails stuff all in paperwork.

I even turn off system restore cos its a crock of nonsense lol. Last time i formatted pc and laptop was 2001. And that was me that thought windows xp was a crock of crud lol

I will say too i did learn the hard way prior to that, but now 15 years with pc's i finally stopped being paranoid.

[David Worthington]

yes i knew about Norton to my cost some years ago and i have been running AVG pro (paid for) for ages and it really impressive with its updates etc

ad-aware seems fine to me tho... but i know nowt really about the cogs and tappets of the inside of my pc !!!

[BarryM]

il agree about nortons too, its a pile of crud, im with avg as well, all free, and its perfect, no greif at all apart from their changeover to 7.5 version where they kinda made out that the previous one was the last freebie, kinda got worried with that.

When setting up others pc's from pc world, my first advice is to chuck Nortons into a jumble sale, go download avg for them.

[Ade]

As to back up me is bad, i do not back nothing up, apart from photos, and my paperwork. Never have done and dont think i will, all software is on a dvd anyway, photos on spare drive and dvd, emails stuff all in paperwork.



Worth backing up your emails as well though mate, i don't know about you but i use outlook to log all of my appointments etc.
If you use Outlook and do a search (including hidden folders) for *.pst and also and back this up. It'll probably be called outlook.pst but anyway this file holds all of your emails calender appointments etc.
If you do need to restore at any time just replace the new *.pst file with your backed up version and all your emails will still be there.

Outlook Express is different a different process though...

[Ade]

ad-aware seems fine to me tho... but i know nowt really about the cogs and tappets of the inside of my pc !!!


Aw-Aware is fine mate, no worries there :Dm. If you do get infected it doesn't always remove them all though. Another good one is SpyBot.

Be carefull running spyware programs that you arn't familiar with, a lot of them (including ones you actually buy) have spyware in them and infect you while you do a sweep!

We discovered this 3 or 4 years back when i was a IT Technical Specialist for the BBC in London and we were evaluating several spyware products on test machines.

[BarryM]

Thanks mate, that is something i should actually do, although im from the old school and all appointments, etc are immedietly entered into my diarys, as are email receipts for purchasing online, immedietlly printed out and entered into my " oh god what have i spent folder"

I had a mate that installed his outlook on his c drive, but all email, addy book, etc was on his spare removable drive, so it would hunt via that, a very good backup i though unless of course the spare drive goes too.

[David Worthington]

Aw-Aware is fine mate, no worries there :Dm. If you do get infected it doesn't always remove them all though. Another good one is SpyBot.

Be carefull running spyware programs that you arn't familiar with, a lot of them (including ones you actually buy) have spyware in them and infect you while you do a sweep!

We discovered this 3 or 4 years back when i was a IT Technical Specialist for the BBC in London and we were evaluating several spyware products on test machines.


thats good to know re ad-aware..... i aint so paranoid that i have loasda padlocks and sentries on the tower... so i will stick with the current set-up.. good to know help is at hand tho if i need it; and if i can get the pc to find you !!!

lol

[Wadey]

I know this an old thread, but as new member, I'm steadily working my way through all the interesting stuff, and even though this is old, the subject matter certainly isn't.

Just thought I'd add my thoughts.

Regarding RAM in your PC...obviously too little is a problem, but just throwing in the maximum amount your PC can handle isn't always the answer.
Quite a few motherboards have a couple of "fast" memory slots (often a different colour to the other slots) and filling these with RAM first, will allow your computer's memory to run at its optimum speed. Very often if you fill the other slots as well, all of the memory has to run at a reduced frequency - something to check before you upgrade.

Plus, be aware that Windows XP, and the 32-bit version of Vista will not give you a noticeable speed boost if you upgrade above 2 gigabytes of RAM. These operating systems are only able to address a a little over 3 Gb at any one time (a fairly large chunk of which is actually needed for Windows itself) so don't be tempted to throw 4Gb in your PC under the impression that that will make your machine fly, it may not.

On the issue of registry cleaners, I'd say use them, but with cation. They can speed up a poorly PC, and they do a good job at removing junk, just don't let them run riot and delete other system files. There are usually settings in these programs to restrict them to cleaning the registry only.

Finally (I know at last) want a PC that runs smoothly, does what its supposed to do time and time again, works the way it did when you bought it 18 months ago - then don't connect it to the internet!!!! Even if you do manage to remain virus and spyware free, the security software needed to protect you slows your PC down - significantly.
I don't allow my "work" PC anywhere near the net. That dubious privilege falls on my laptop, which gets (and needs) a regular clean up to keep it up and running.