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Full Critique Black BG orchid

Discussion in 'Plants, Animals & Insects Photography Forum' started by David Payne, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:30 PM.

  1. David Payne

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    Glad you got the black figured I out.
    Now you need to defuse the flash somehow or turn down the power. To me the whites or highlights or to hot or blown. The second image seems to have a leaf in the bottom left. I would almost shoot this vertical. And try to isolate one flower and fill the frame more with the flower. All that black isn't important to see and doesn't really do much for the shot. You want the flower to be important not the black. Heck, I'd probably use a second light source to try to soften the brightness
     
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    Glad you got there.
    Vertical format might be more suited to this.
    I agree a second fill light on the other side would help, but good first go. It's quite good fun isn't it.
     
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    Yes it is.
    So now down to the next problem. On my camera screen the pictures look acceptable for exposure. But on the PC they are quite dark. The histogram is all to the left. What should the histogram look like?
     
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    Any reason for wanting to use a flash and not natural light David?
     
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    Well at the moment its dark when I leave home for work and dark when I get back home. Also this is an exercise in using flash so I can try and master it.
     
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    Right, I missed that bit. I'm not much help then, not done much flash stuff and its always been a bit trial and error when I have.
     
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    For me too. But verging mostly on error and being found wanting.
     
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    I agree with Steve that a vertical crop would work better. A softbox diffuser would probably help reign in the highlights, they are a little blown out on my monitor. The colors look great the the image is nice and sharp.
     
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    I don't have a softbox/brolly yet. So I fired the flash through a white plastic milk carton. The white on the petal is very white. I am wondering if I have over cooked it in PP, as I said the picture on the PC was very dsrk.
     
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    A Challenge :)

    I shot orchids against a black back (T shirt) with natural light and that came out fine as its easier you have to work harder with flash and I couldn't get acceptable results when I tried .........I took the easy route and waited for daylight.

    I found with flash I got specular highlights distractingly on the petals.

    A couple of flashes either side close up and well diffused and probably black flags to stop spill onto the background and onto camera ............it will take some work to get right ...well it would for me :) but once you have it sorted I reckon its rinse and repeat as the lighting should be predictable.

    Here is one I did earlier minimal PP

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