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Ilford ID-11 and Multigrade developer

Simon James

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Hello, I have been trying to print my black and White negatives in my darkroom for the past year or so. While I have had some passable prints, I am finding that I find it hard to be consistent. However I think I have made a vital mistake. o_O

I purchased ID-11 to develop my film - It is a film developer. After developing and scanning I have great results. (Ones I am happy with)
I have also been using this film developer to try to develop my prints as well.
I found out yesterday that I should be using a paper developer like Ilford Multigrade.

Question: Has anyone else made this mistake? Why is there a difference between a film and paper developer? Appreciate any insights. :)
 

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Hello, I have been trying to print my black and White negatives in my darkroom for the past year or so. While I have had some passable prints, I am finding that I find it hard to be consistent. However I think I have made a vital mistake. o_O

I purchased ID-11 to develop my film - It is a film developer. After developing and scanning I have great results. (Ones I am happy with)
I have also been using this film developer to try to develop my prints as well. I found out yesterday that I should be using a paper developer like Ilford Multigrade.

Question: Has anyone else made this mistake? Why is there a difference between a film and paper developer? Appreciate any insights. :)
G'day Simon

Film developers are much more diluted than paper developers and consequently are more gentle upon the media that they are working with. Film needs to be treated very delicately so that the silver halide / grain is as small as possible -but- that does not apply to papers, so those developers are quite strong. You will see this in the paperwork ~ where a paper developer might be diluted to 1:1 but film developer diluted to 1:10 or thereabouts. ps- there always are exceptions to the rule, but that's okay :)

You are using Multigrade - a product that you can vary via selected filters into the enlarger during print-exposure. For print consistency you might need to keep some informal notes on filtration & exposure so that you can see patterns for success or 'failure'

Others here will probably offer you some more information :)

Hope this helps
Phil
 
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