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New Lightroom and Photoshop released

DonS

Stuck in Toronto
Moderator
New Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic version 8. I think the biggest change is a new process version that affects the Dehaze tool the most. They have improve Canon tethering and you can now Merge to HDR Panorama which sounds interesting. Also, support for new Nikon and Canon mirrorless cameras.

I never looked at the list of PS updates because I just do not care :)
 

Phill104

Always on
Premium Member
I have just installed and so far it is looking good. In PS the new content aware fill is a lot of fun.

A nice video explaining some of the features -

 

Hatter

Always on
Premium Member
I think I'll have to seriously think about replacing my 9 year old iMac now - the new versions won't run on it. :(
 

Snips

Always on
As ever, I'll wait for a week or two to see if there are bug postings.

As always there are new camera updates.

And bug fixes. Beats me why they can't get a large fly swat and make sure there are no bugs in the next version.

Bug fixes ... ad nauseum. Why couldn't they fix 'em last time?
 

hooferinsane

EXIF Seeker
Super Moderator
I have heard of one bug for the new fuji XT3, changing the WB to anything other than ‘as shot’ results in a greenish tint. It works fine if you convert it to DNG via Iridient X transformer first though. Apparently adobe are aware of this....
 

Phill104

Always on
Premium Member
You fix one bug, another arises. Software development is a pain in the Harris. The most frustrating ones are when you fix something and another team member for some unexplained reason is doing there but of development using old code. Suddenly you find what you have fixed has returned three generations later. Still, at least no Adobe product is deleting all your files on upgrade.....
 

SeanNeedham

Ol' Sparky
Honorary Life Member
I've looked at it on line but not bit the bullet to upgrade Lightroom yet, and really I'm not in any rush at the moment; I've still not got a production rig running Mojave yet and what with the raft of software that's been updated of late (nearly everything I use on production stuff) I'm hanging off until I get some free time to bash all the headaches at once.

You fix one bug, another arises.
Or there's the third vector, Phil, user system deployment... It's one thing doing Alpha work on development rigs, then Beta work on "clean" systems but when it comes to release to public there's always a group of folk who've got problems with something because their systems have something else on them that causes shenanigans (the hooky MS Office activator on Win10 which keeps changing the proxy settings is one that I've run in to a lot recently).
 

oldgeezer

Always on
Premium Member
I really wonder if the photography world needs all the new gadget camera gear and software.

I see nothing new in CC that would warrant using it above CS6 and in most cases back to CS3 and Elements.

This is for high end designers, high end large work flows and not for photography in most cases.
All of the filters like de-haze and all other contrast and colour manipulation is all based on Curves, which can achieve everything with a little knowledge.

As for Lightroom, Bridge and ACR will do it, just looks pretty and a lot slower.

At least the Canadians can chill out now they can get legal weed oil and forget about all the hype that this photography stuff bombarded us with.
 

Phill104

Always on
Premium Member
Ah, but will the weed help Canadians to speak correctly. If I watch another youtube video where the presenter says 1.4x (pronouncing it as "ex" instead of times) I will be forced to slap Canadians in the same boat language wise as Merkans.
 

DonS

Stuck in Toronto
Moderator
Ah, but will the weed help Canadians to speak correctly. If I watch another youtube video where the presenter says 1.4x (pronouncing it as "ex" instead of times) I will be forced to slap Canadians in the same boat language wise as Merkans.
Dude....... :) We are in the middle with language. Some things are the proper way, others the American way. We use "re" and "our" but tend to use a 'z' instead of 's' in words like organize. Some even say zee instead of zed. I corrected one of my daughter's teachers on that! I agree above, it should be times no matter who is saying it because that is the only thing that makes sense, i.e. 1.4 times magnification, not 1.4 ex.
 

DonS

Stuck in Toronto
Moderator
@DonS this says a lot about the banks Don :whistle3:

The first few minutes !!!!!!!!!!!
This is not about reading, it is about math. How many 8ths in an inch, seriously? The construction industry here still does everything in imperial but most tape measures have both inches and centimetres.
 

oldgeezer

Always on
Premium Member
This is not about reading, it is about math. How many 8ths in an inch, seriously? The construction industry here still does everything in imperial but most tape measures have both inches and centimetres.
My post should have said Yanks.
You know they only have wars to teach their people geography.
 

Phill104

Always on
Premium Member
Math sounds weird to us. We see it as plural noun, as is mathematics. We would not shorten a plural to a singular.

I do find language interesting, particularly its evolution. I am far from a purist, as long as each side can understand each other surely that is the point. I remember reading fondly the books of Arthur Conan Doyle in my teenage years and sniggering every time someone ejaculated.
 
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DonS

Stuck in Toronto
Moderator
My post should have said Yanks.
You know they only have wars to teach their people geography.
Hey, some real tape measure info:

https://lifehacker.com/discover-the-secrets-of-the-tape-measure-1829783253?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=lifehacker_copy&utm_campaign=top

Math sounds weird to us. We see it as plural noun, as is mathematics. We would not shorten a plural to a singular.

I do find language interesting, particularly its evolution. I am far from a purist, as long as each side can understand each other surely that is the point. I remember reading fondly the books of Arthur Conan Doyle in my teenage years and sniggering every time someone ejaculated.
Ok, me too, except I have been listening to them as audiobooks on the drive to work. Men: fully matured at age 12 :)
 
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j.mac

Member
Anyway...about Photoshop 2019, I've had many issues with this upgrade and have tried in vain to revert back to 2018 as a default setting in Bridge. It not only runs v. slow resulting in the annoying colour swirl every time I ask the program to do something but it seems to interrupt the brush selection tools requiring multiple pick ups to secure the chosen size etc. It sends me mad when my workflow is upended needlessly - YOU DO THE MATH(s)
Angry from Nottingham
 

hooferinsane

EXIF Seeker
Super Moderator
One new thing that has appeared for me is that the shake reduction filter crashes PS periodically when using it
 

DonS

Stuck in Toronto
Moderator
Anyway...about Photoshop 2019, I've had many issues with this upgrade and have tried in vain to revert back to 2018 as a default setting in Bridge. It not only runs v. slow resulting in the annoying colour swirl every time I ask the program to do something but it seems to interrupt the brush selection tools requiring multiple pick ups to secure the chosen size etc. It sends me mad when my workflow is upended needlessly - YOU DO THE MATH(s)
Angry from Nottingham
There was just an update the other day for PS 2019, it may solve some problems.
 

SeanNeedham

Ol' Sparky
Honorary Life Member
There was just an update the other day for PS 2019, it may solve some problems.
I think some of it is also down to the hardware config of the machines; some of the work machines are showing issues, some not and all pretty similar software installs but with hardware differences. The one that seems most riddled is the fully loaded 2018 i9 (until the WiFi is turned off) and the older ones less problematic (can't comment on mine as I've only just upgraded to 2015 because of Mojave).
 

MikeB

Always on
Premium Member
I've had to go back to using an earlier version. Too many problems encountered on latest release.

I think Adobe's problems come from doing a complete rewrite of their legacy code to be used on a larger range of devices. The subtleties of the earlier inline compatibility fixes are missing their mark in whatever code language they are converting to.
 
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