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Robin Processing - what do you do?

Discussion in 'Photoshop & Editing Chat Forum' started by Snips, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Snips

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    I'm asking for a favour or help, whichever way you want to look at it.

    I took a photograph of a robin yesterday and have processed it but it doesn't look as good as many other's bird photos. I *think* it's a good quality raw image but my processing doesn't seem to have done it justice.

    Do you want a bash and then pop up your interpretation - and the help bit is please can you tell me what you did to achieve your result?

    Here's the dropbox link to the raw file. I'll leave the rest to you then put up my version after a few examples.

    Many thanks!!

    Robin.cr2
     
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    You know the answer,its a new lens and camera you need,that solves every thing;):exit:
     
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    Had a go but to be honest i cant pull any more feather detail out,i just brushed sharpening and clarity a bit on the bird,cloned the dark back ground patch out,did a focus select inverted it and a bit of lens blur on the back ground.

    Going to watch this thread as i have a lot to learn.

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    Now I quite like the dark areas of the BG so I would crop like this with selective adjustments ...
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    Paul
     
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    HMM ................mines got the biggest stick :)
     
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    Not always about whose is the biggest.................... 'apparently' :D

    i love keeping an eye on these kind of threads as it's always good to see other peoples interpretations!
     
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    Thats what my wife tells me,bless her.
     
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    Thank you all for these - I wondered about cloning that little piece of stick out too (and have noted the other stick comments too :))

    @rebel06 - if I may, what sharpening technique did you use and what were the settings please? (Give or take if you can't remember the precise numbers.)

    Still waiting for some others. Hoping @Ash (Jacko) , @slipper and @BillN_33 among others might slip in an edit if you have a few minutes :)
     
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    I sharpened in camera raw ... Amount--65 ... Masking ---30 ..... Luminance noise reduction 30 ...... I dropped the highlights and lifted the shadows .... lifted the whites and dropped the blacks ... opened in PS to clone and crop.... didnt resharpen in PS before saving
     
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  11. DonS

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    I would start by plucking the feathers. After that...oh....you mean a photo of one. Never mind :)
     
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  12. BillN_33

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    I was probably go for something like this - but it is a pity that you did not use a longer lens, say a 300mm plus TC

    Quick Edit - bg still needs improvement around the birds head, the dark shadowy areas and around the end of the tail

    with a shot like this I would always sort out the bg and cloning first, then any noise

    [​IMG]

    what was the light like?

    [​IMG]
     
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    So thats what you do with 'em Pete.
     
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    Pete!! :shocked: :) :)


    Again, many thank you's for the responses. I was wondering if I'd gone over board on the orange but apart from upping the vibrancy I'd lowered the oranges. I also wondered if I'd over sharpened it. My offering:

    61207-1391 1024.jpg

    I think I should have lowered the background noise and that sticky uppy stick bit is annoying me.

    @rebel06 - thank you for those settings and again, thank you to all.
     
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    @Snips Ed, you should do it to please yourself. I saw a grey fox on the way home, would have looked strange listing it in its natural color. The red on the Robin is quite a range from bird to bird.
     
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    Think you need to select just the bird before sharpening Edward .... the BG is too noisy now
     
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    Hi snips

    IMHO
    it is over sharpened, you have a "grainy" bird, with dark noise
    and you have sharpened the noise, the bg noise, which is very noticeable
    too much vibrance in the bg
    those two lines just on the right of the birds back aren't attractive as is the line and cycle to the left of the bird
    variations of colors in the bg distracts - in shots like the the bird should "stand out"
    pointy bit on the branch needs reducing, but especially the one crossing the birds leg
    always check on the WB and sharpen last

    hope this helps
     
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    Some fantastic tips here - thank you, Paul and Bill for those latest ones.

    Super edits and I did enjoy the Reliant - good work on the window areas too, Pete.
     
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  22. BillN_33

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    Thanks Snips - it's good that you appreciate what people say - most are just personal opinions and gained through trial and error - sometimes we all have "fixations" on elements of processing and composition and just miss things, I do anyway

    Best wishes

    Bill
     
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    I think you could crop in quite tight on this as it is sharp enough to take it @Snips but this might be a little too tight.
    Thats a nice lens Edward.

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    Thank you Pete and I rather like that. The lens is my trusty 70-200mm f/4 - taken from about 8 feet away or so. I was stood at a gate and it landed at the adjoining hedge.
     

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