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Storm in a Teacup ***** (and a challenge)****

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As the title says ...... Inspired by a magazine article I came up with this.
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Cool concept, can't help but think some spilled tea or coffee/foam would add to the shot. Make it seem like the storm was not quite contained in the cup. :)
 

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Cool concept, can't help but think some spilled tea or coffee/foam would add to the shot. Make it seem like the storm was not quite contained in the cup. :)
That would have been a good idea, shame I didn't think of that.
 

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I love the concept, but as already mentioned, a bit of overspill would work great here.
 

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I love the concept, but as already mentioned, a bit of overspill would work great here.
Just playing about with PS on a rainy day .... didn't spend to long on it.
 

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You have to get the storm to follow the contours of the cup! It's doable but may take some time unless you are a post expert.
 

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You have to get the storm to follow the contours of the cup! It's doable but may take some time unless you are a post expert.
Like I said it was a quick play, not to be taken too seriously .
 

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To be convincing some effort has to be put into its creation. Its a round cup and whats inside should have that round feeling, A roaring sea would have waves over the side. Its a cool idea but just not done very well. And Im not taking it too seriously at all. Im only saying you get out what you put in. How about a challenge to see what others can come up with. I can think of a few ways it could be accomplished.
 

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Good idea and gives you something to work on another time.
 

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To be convincing some effort has to be put into its creation. Its a round cup and whats inside should have that round feeling, A roaring sea would have waves over the side. Its a cool idea but just not done very well. And Im not taking it too seriously at all. Im only saying you get out what you put in. How about a challenge to see what others can come up with. I can think of a few ways it could be accomplished.
Ok here is the challenge, see what you can do.
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Always like a challenge and I've never tried one of these before so here is my rather poor attempt. Water spray is not fun to select.
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Nice one Ryan, it's both fun and frustrating at the same time .... lol
 

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The shape of the cup is an ogee. There should be some shading at least at the point where the top of the ogee starts to flare out. It is that variation in shading that needs to be translated to the image overlay. The kicker is that is curves around. So let's see some transparency and show that ogee.
 

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Had another play ...... any better?
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See that darker area to the right and behind the waverider? Continue that darker area around the inside of the lip and angled down into the cup. Go to the point where the water would be starting to overflow the cup. The water level behind the rider is below the cup lip and goes down about to the ogee curve beginning. The water in front is flowing over the cup. So get that area in back and to the left looking like the water level is lower as it appears at the right and you have it!
 

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You are very welcome to edit my image to show what you are talking about as you lost me somewhere along the line.
 

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Im pretty busy this weekend but I did spend 6 minutes on this. Its not good by a long shot but it demonstrates how there should be some kind of 3 dimensionality to whats inside the cup. It shouldnt just look like a pic pasted inside. The cup should look like its holding something and not like a picture frame. Im glad you posted this because it can be challenging and a lot of fun.

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Rebel06 Look at Paul's image. He has the idea. But what I am talking about is the shading of the ogee curve and you can see it quite well in another part of the image. Look at the front of the cup just under the lip. There is an elliptical band of shadow where the ogee curve flares out. It begins again where the ogee curve flares in at the bottom. That is what I wanted to see in the overlay... some gradation that shows that curve so it shows that it is in the cup. Note that what you see in front on the outside will likely "flip" for the inside.
 

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Did you mean something like this breeliz?

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Oops! We ran into some problems.
The requested page could not be found.
 

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This is like an OOB....Out of Bounds. Image goes out beyond the frame and looks very 3D.
 

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Once you get this right Rebel 06 I predict that you will win an award for the waverider in a cup image. You have the reflection down there under the waterfalling. It is a very subtle detail. The whole idea is very artistic and creative. It's just matching the overlay to the container so it is convincingly IN the cup following the contours of the cup and then flowing out.

This is like an OOB....Out of Bounds. Image goes out beyond the frame and looks very 3D.
Weird that it doesn't display on the screen. Please email it to me at breeliz@verizon.net
 

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Rebel06 Look at Paul's image. He has the idea. But what I am talking about is the shading of the ogee curve and you can see it quite well in another part of the image. Look at the front of the cup just under the lip. There is an elliptical band of shadow where the ogee curve flares out. It begins again where the ogee curve flares in at the bottom. That is what I wanted to see in the overlay... some gradation that shows that curve so it shows that it is in the cup. Note that what you see in front on the outside will likely "flip" for the inside.
You are on the right track but the shading you are talking about wouldnt show on the water. The water has covered over the cups curving shape and so would just appear elliptical. However, whats missing on the water is the rflction of the edge of the cup on the back side. It would have to be completely created and not by flipping and rotating a piece of the actual lip and pasting.
 
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