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Testing and buying a camera

Discussion in 'Photography & Camera Basics Forum' started by cowboymug, May 16, 2019 at 1:58 PM.

  1. cowboymug

    cowboymug Member

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    Having finished an online photography course, I may need to upgrade from my combination of iPhone X / GoPro Hero7 Black for landscape photography.

    Ideally I want to test a range of cameras in a landscape setting, get all of the images on a file and compare the quality to figure out the optimal level of quality against funds invested.
    I may attend a photography club and ask people with the same shot on the same day to send me the file - do you guys have a better method to figure out the optimal level of camera to buy?

    Also, is Amazon the cheapest place you guys recommend to buy a camera or am I missing a trick?

    FWIW, I'm looking at getting a full sensor mirrorless camera - Sony A7R would be bottom of the range here.
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher Here a lot

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  3. rebel06

    rebel06 Without a cause Moderator

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    Hello and welcome to the forum.
    What is your budget for camera and lens.?
    Are you in the UK.?

    Paul
     
  4. DonS

    DonS Stuck in Toronto Moderator

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    The problem with your idea is that people will process the photo. So then the raw to jpg conversion needs to be taken into account. But, you can ask for a just converted from raw to jpg with no adjustments, that should be minimal. I do think you have another problem: finding a group of people with full frame mirrorless cameras. I know in my camera club of about 100 people I only see a few using mirrorless and most are not full frame. There is a question of if this exercise is even worth it in the real world. Camera magazines do comparisons like this all the time, you may want to check those. The differences may be so minor in the end that you need something else to base a decision on.

    Amazon is not normally the best deal on cameras, see the link someone gave above to check prices.

    One thing I suggest, no matter where you buy the camera from, go and hold one. If it does not feel comfortable you will not like it as much and may not use it as much. Go try them in person to get a feel for them.
     
  5. cowboymug

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    I'm not in the UK, I'm based between Turkey and Ireland.

    I don't have a specific budget, the lower the better of course - I haven't taken a lens into account, but I will be shooting landscapes, with a person in the foreground.
    I travel lots so size/weight is important.
    On one hand I don't want to overspend, on the other I don't want to underspend and drop more funds further down the line upgrading.
     
  6. Snips

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    As (almost) everyone knows here I'm keen on the Canon 6D Mk1 - it's not mirrorless though but it does have live view. The range of lenses is excellent and the body price for a second hand version is a little lower than the Sony A7R.

    This site might help you out if you're checking out specifications:
    https://www.dpreview.com
     
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    Without a budget range it's very difficult to suggest a camera and you must take the lens into account as it may possibly cost you as much or more than the body.
    Also what is the image you have tried to upload .. just comes out as blank ???

    Paul
     
  8. cowboymug

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    I found a great tool to compare different cameras on the same scene (link removed see rules) but unfortunately it doesn't have any of landscapes - does anyone know of something similar online?
     
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  9. Snips

    Snips Always on

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    Without wanting to be too simplistic, I would suggest that the better cameras in the studio would be better at landscapes too. Also, it’s the lens that tends to make more of a difference as opposed to the camera body.
     
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    Can you tell me what was the image you tried to post in the post above.
     
  11. cowboymug

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    I didn't try to post any image with it, no idea what happened!
     
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  13. cowboymug

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    Haha ok I won't stretch my budget that far!
    2-3k on the body and 1k on the lens.

    Speaking of budget, if I were to buy both camera and lens second hand, then realize a few months later that it's not for me and sell them on, what % of the initial investment would I lose out on roughly?
     
  14. DonS

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    Camera more than lens. Lenses retain their value quite well for good ones.
     
  15. MikeB

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    You're moving up from a iPhone X and GoPro to a more serious camera. All major name brands produce excellent cameras. Whether you buy Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic, or Sony you will be getting an excellent camera. The differences from one to another are marginal. Every camera in their camera lines can produce award winning photos. It seems to me that you are over-thinking your purchase.

    Recognize that you are buying into a camera system. The camera body will last a few years and you will either outgrow it or you will want to move to a current model. However, the lenses will last for years, if properly taken care of they will serve several camera bodies.

    Choose the camera system that makes the most sense for what you want to do. Compare the features and functionality and make the choice for what works best for your requirements.
    -- you want full frame but is that important for the type of photography you plan on doing, for some types of photography a smaller sensor maybe be better and certainly less expensive - for example, if you are going to cripple a full frame camera with a cheap lens then you'd may be better off getting a smaller sensor camera and a great lens - you will produce higher quality photos
    -- still images vs. still images and some video (or video and some still images) - a smaller sensor may be better for video
    -- standard resolution (best for portraiture) or high resolution (best for landscapes and architecture); if you're not willing to buy high resolution lenses then a high resolution camera body may be wasting money; high resolution cameras are more difficult to handhold and not have problems with camera shake

    Once you figure out what you need/want, then look at your budget. You will either realize that "want" and "need" may not be the same or you may realize that saving up for a particular camera and lens(es) may make more sense at this time.

    Buying used is fine. You will suffer less of a loss buying and then selling a used camera/lens than a new one. The % of lost investment depends on the specific camera/lens and demand.
     
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